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A lot more…; – )

stufflin wrote:

Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:40 pm


-Subpatchers
these patches grow big and ugly fast, so subpatches can clean them up and save building time.

+ 1000. This is the most missing feature. I would have patches so much better organized with much less real estate eating. Its very hard to build more complex patches without it…

stufflin wrote:

Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:40 pm


-Presets
i use mod-outs for this now, which i toggle on or dial into by [value>split>modout], still looking for better ways.

I don’t care so much about that.Bitwigs preset system is just different in in may ways better…
To build a preset system in Max with names an browsers and alike is possible but complictated…

stufflin wrote:

Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:40 pm


-Midi out modules
note/pitch/gate/velocity out
possible through dc-offset, replacer and notereceiver/audiorate, but would be nice when its cleaner and more direct.

I agree. I bet there will be a Midi 2.0 Grid at some time. It has to be 2.0 ready or they would have to start again from scratch…

stufflin wrote:

Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:40 pm


-Modulatable Steps-module
the graphs/slider in stepmodule cant be modulated, which suuuuuucks!
Stepcount is, but doesnt change on screen.
Now i have to modulate [split>row of valuedials], or does everybody play with Phases?

I would rathe want to see a modulateable MSEG – each segment with all three parameters. The Steps module doesn’t cut it. With a proper MSEG they could get rid of all other Envelopes sort of, but they have to keep them for backwards compatibility…

stufflin wrote:

Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:40 pm


-Small reference examplepatches to get to know all the modules.

Yes something like a help patch at leastt as an image… Especially the array object lacks examples. I would like te see a tutorial from Dave…

What I really miss is the ease of doing math in Max. Each math operator should have a setable operand. My formulas are cluttered with constant objects which only take up space for nothing…

Best would be a Formula object where you could just type in a formula…
I am in also in need of an “if” object, like the envisioned formula object…

All I/O objects should have a modulator arrow, and the release velocity I/O is missing (I can access it of course with the expression modulator outside of the Grid…)

I need a better universal shaper module to draw arbitrary shapes with splines or at least freehand…

But there are areas where the Grid shines brighter than Max. All the poly handling is way easier, better than send/receive is the whole modulation system.
I am way faster getting musical result in the Grid than in Max, but some limitations drive me crazy and a lot is simply impossible. But I still have Max for that…; – )

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