Hive envelope attack snappier at settings higher than 0 – JUNO/Sylenth waveforms – filter distortion – u-he Forum
I noticed something about the snappiness of hive.
Two issues:
1 the (Amp) envelope attack seems snappier at +5 than 0.
2 Most waveforms are not in phase when the oscillators are set to reset. So a Saw and Square for the sub oscillator are in different phases. This also goes for most other waveforms. In a juno synth or sylenth when the oscillators are set to reset, the Saw and Square oscillator start the same point, meaning when the saw is zero, the square is zero, if the saw goes goes up, the square goes up. I checked with an oscilloscope. This results in a cleaner snappier sound. In Hive these starting points are unequal (something like 65 degrees apart) are not equal resulting in a buzzier sound resulting from waveforms out of phase. In e.g. Serum you can manually set the phase of the oscillator to compensate for this.
Two issues:
1 the (Amp) envelope attack seems snappier at +5 than 0.
2 Most waveforms are not in phase when the oscillators are set to reset. So a Saw and Square for the sub oscillator are in different phases. This also goes for most other waveforms. In a juno synth or sylenth when the oscillators are set to reset, the Saw and Square oscillator start the same point, meaning when the saw is zero, the square is zero, if the saw goes goes up, the square goes up. I checked with an oscilloscope. This results in a cleaner snappier sound. In Hive these starting points are unequal (something like 65 degrees apart) are not equal resulting in a buzzier sound resulting from waveforms out of phase. In e.g. Serum you can manually set the phase of the oscillator to compensate for this.
This is why a lot of simple sounds like plucks) are easier to create in sylenth.
PS there are waves in Hive that that do sync. The Saw from “six waves” and the square from “Allsorts”. set these to rest and you’ll hear what i mean. And set the amp attack to +5. I would prefer the sub oscillator to be in sync (or at least have a choice).
3 PS still a shame the filter does not drive/distort.
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